Left Tank Lines Complete, Senders Started

May 30th, 2014 No comments
Left Vent and Return

Left Vent and Return

Had a couple of minutes…uh huh…to head to the shop tonight. Decided to fabricate the left tank vent line. It actually went pretty fast as I used the right line as a template. What I did forget to do was to slide the flare sleeve on to the tubing before I bent it. Seems a little out of order, but I had already flared the end before bending. DOH! So, I had to cut off the nice flare I had done and re-flare. Speaking of flares….

I read on a thread on VAF about flare size specs. I shouldn’t have. Turns out most of mine were too small in diameter. I had to wonder why, since my Rolo-Flare tool from Parker has a depth gauge. As it turns out, I was not clamping the tubing quite tight enough in the dies, and when I began the flare, it pushed the tubing back in the tool. This created flares way under spec. For 1/4″ tube the flare should be 0/35″ ± .01″. Mine were anywhere from 0.32″ – 0.33″. For more info, click the link for the thread. Needless to say, I redid all the flares already complete in the right tank. Fortunately, I have  tubing cutter that allows me to get really close to the prior flares, so the tubing length loss was minimal on the right tank lines. Left tank lines are just right.

Left Outboard Capacitive Sender Plate Installed

Left Outboard Capacitive Sender Plate Installed

Once the tank lines were complete, I figured I would install (or at least test fit) the left tank Capacitive Fuel Sender plates to get ready to complete the interior component parts. Above you see the outboard plate in place and the wire run inboard to the other plate. Eventually, I will put dabs of sealant on the wire/line interface to hold it solid.

Left Inboard Capacitive Sender Plate

Left Inboard Capacitive Sender Plate

And here is the inboard plate, screwed into place. I need to measure and trim the wires and then crimp them into the ring terminals, screw them to the plate, and then seal the terminals/wires/screws. Once done, it will be time to seal and rivet the outboard and inboard most ribs. Moving along. Still praying for leak free tanks!

 

Categories: Tanks

Tank Interior Plumbing Starts, Right Tank Lines Done

May 29th, 2014 No comments
Measuring the Return Line Length

Measuring the Return Line Length

I decided to head to the shop after work and check on the cure status of the sealant on the rivets. Upon finding it was tack free, I figured I would just work on the return lines and call it good for the night. A long time ago, I bought some lengths of 5052-O tubing from Aircraft Spruce. I have been storing it ever since with the intent of using it in my tanks to replace the flimsier 3003-O that Van’s supplies in a coil. The Van’s supplied stuff is REALLY soft but usable. Many builders opt for the 5052-O to make better, stronger lines. I fall into that camp as well. I will use the 3003-O for practice and prefabrication.

Back to the return lines…I purposely drilled my return lines to be a straight shot from the fitting to the last interior outboard rib. All I had to do was insert the bushings in each rib, slide in the tube, measure, cut, flare, install. Sounds easier than it was because I had to remove and reinstall the most inboard rib a few times to get it all right and ready.

For those not familiar with why some builders opt for return lines while others don’t. I am simply because I don’t know what is coming, and doing it now is easy. Some injections systems use them, others don’t. Worse comes to worse, I simply cap it off and call it good. If I do end up needing them, easy as can be to use them.

Above you can see the tube stock, run to the last bay, before I cut it.

Left Tank Return Line Fabrication

Left Tank Return Line Fabrication

Once I cut it to length and flared it, I simply inserted it and temporarily attached the AN fittings to the inboard rib for a test fit. Looks good. It took me about 20 minutes to complete the left, so I repeated to process for the right tank.

It’s amazing how doing it once speeds up the second time and beyond. The right tank return line took about 15 minutes to complete. Feeling like I was on a roll, I decided to press on.

Modifying the Bushings for the Capacitive Sender Wire

Modifying the Bushings for the Capacitive Sender Wire

Since I am using the capacitive fuel senders, I had to to modify the bushings that hold the vent line before I could install the line in them. This is because the capacitive plates are wired together and then share the same holes as the vent line to penetrate the ribs. I simply chucked my 1/16th” bit into the drill press and ran it at medium speed and “cut” a notch into each of the 8 bushings (4 per tank) needed. The wire will pass through the notches along side the vent tubing. In no time, I was ready to fabricate the right tank vent line.

Right Tank Outboard Bay, Vent and Return Lines Cut

Right Tank Outboard Bay, Vent and Return Lines Cut

Here you see the right tank vent line, run above the return line, to the last bay in the tank. It was fun to push the line from the inboard side and feel it simply slide into the little clip installed with the filler neck with precision. This is after I finished the inboard end, and then cut the line to length. At some point, once the outboard rib is sealed, riveted, and nice fillets made, I will final install this vent line and bend the end up to get it close to the highest point of the tank, or closer to the skin. It’s good to go for now.

Right Tank Vent and Return Lines Complete

Right Tank Vent and Return Lines Complete

Here you see the inboard side of the lines complete. I pretty much did this by eye and either got lucky, or my skills at eyeballing are improving. I also threaded the capacitive sender wire through the first bushing for a test fit. I determined that I needed just a hair bigger notch in the bushings after this trial fit. I removed them, opened them a little bigger, and then replaced. It took me a hour or so to get the vent line bent, flared, cut to length, and attached as you see it here. At this point, it was late, so I called it a night. I will likely attempt the left vent line and the capacitive sender plates for both tanks in the next session. Then it will be time to seal and rivet the inboard and outboard ribs.

Feels good to be making progress again.

Categories: Tanks

High Time for Interior Tank Ribs

May 24th, 2014 No comments
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Ribs Riveted and Gooped

Man…am I glad that part is over!!!

As you can see from the log, I have not done a good session of work in some time. I actually sealed the ribs to the skins back in September 2013. The ProSeal on those interior ribs was certainly well cured. It was also nice and dusty from sitting in the shop idle. Needless to say, I needed to get out to shop for a good long day of work.

I spoke to a couple of my fellow RV’ers and was basically given the ultimatum. “Build, or I am giving up on you!” was actually spoken by one. I couldn’t have that. Todd has been a good source of encouragement, help, tools, and general motivation. I needed to be able to tell him next time I saw him, that I had made progress. And I need to return his loaned clecos and sealant gun. 😉

It was settled. I would rivet the tanks over Memorial Day weekend.

I got out to the shop around 0900 and pulled out the two oldest of the cartridges of B2 sealant. They technically expired in March of 2014, but I have had them in the refrigerator (yes, in the house, then the drink fridge I got for Christmas) since I bought them. I have heard that you can extend the shelf life considerably by keeping it cool. Since it is only two months out of date, I decided to mix it up and see how it would flow. Turns out, it was good as new.

So, armed with 12 oz of sealant (two 6 oz cartridges), Semco gun, MEK, and lots of gloves and rags, it was time.

Inside the Tanks

Inside the Tanks

Since the ribs were sealed 8 months ago to the skins, the risk of them pulling apart from the skins was, well, zero. Some airplanes actually seal ribs to skins and call it good, no rivets. I removed all the clecos from the bottom side of the right tank. I figured it has been a long time since I riveted using a gun and bucking bar, so starting on the bottom was a good idea in case I messed some up. Next up, I wiped all the rivet lines inside and out with a rag and MEK to clean any residual cured ProSeal in the dimples and human bi-products. I then mixed up the first cartridge of sealant and got set to rivet. Using the Semco gun, I was able to simply use the nozzle to shoot a small amount of ProSeal into each dimple. I then inserted a MEK soaked and dried rivet into each dimpled hole, and then pushed them with a sucker stick to seat them nicely in the bed of sealant in the dimple. At this point I riveted each rib, nose to end, working from the middle rib out. After each line was set, I cleaned both sides with a light wipe of MEK. This was simply to insure that the shop heads were set correct and not to leave a significant mess.

I was able to get one tank per cartridge worth of rivets done AND then hit the shop heads with a little drop of sealant, smeared with a sealant spoon, to create a completely airtight assembly. I only used about 3 oz of sealant on each tank, but did not want to risk the exceeding working time of the ProSeal. Inevitably, I needed to hit a few rivets a bit more, some I had to drill out and replace. For the most part, I did OK. All in all, I kept the ProSeal on the tanks, or on gloves and rags. Pretty clean surprisingly.

Cleaned and Set

Set and Cleaned Up

I spent nearly until 1600 riveting, cleaning, checking, sealing, etc. Needless to say, I am sore in places I have not been sore in some time…again. Some of my manufactured heads are sitting a little high, but I know a little cheat…rivet shaving, that will clean those up. That will of course happen after all the sealant is cured and likely before paint. For the most part, they turned out pretty good. I think this may have been in part the sealant that ended up on the flush rivet set not permitting a good hit. It could have been technique being a little rusty. It could have been too much sealant under the countersink. When I say high…we’re talking very slight.

I think I will take Monday off and let this sealant cure for a week in the house before moving on. I will need it to recover from the body soreness anyway. 🙂 Next up will be the plumbing of vent/return lines, capacitive fuel sender wiring/plate install, and then riveting/sealing of the inboard and outboard ribs. Fortunately the rest of the riveting on the tanks is done with a squeezer or rivet puller. As for now, the gun/bucking bar method is done on the tanks. I really cannot wait to be done with ProSeal.

 

Categories: Tanks

Tanks resume some more…

May 17th, 2014 No comments

Sorry, no pictures again. I did however complete the work I started earlier this week.

Basically, I cleaned all the holes of extra proseal in preparation for wet setting the rivets.

Took a bunch of time, but it was work. Work that needed to be done.

Now I simply need to wipe each rivet line clean with MEK and go to town riveting.

Categories: Tanks

Tanks resume…

May 15th, 2014 No comments

No pictures, but I did make some progress tonight.

I was out in the shop doing other things and just decided to clean out 1/4 of the rivet holes in preparation for riveting.

I basically removed the clecos from every other hole in a line, passed a #40 bit through them by hand, and then chased the dimple with a countersink by hand.

I still need to scrape a little on the inside the tank for each dimple and then hit each with MEK to clean off scraps and human oils.

I need to repeat this on the other 3 remaining sides of the tanks and then I think I will be ready to final rivet them.

Progress is progress, one rivet at a time.

Categories: Tanks

Fuselage Kit Arrives!

May 5th, 2014 No comments
Fuselage Kit Arrives!

Fuselage Kit Arrives!

Today was like a late Christmas for me. I ordered the fuselage kit back in early March to avoid the price increase that Van’s does every year. That and I needed something to be in the way so as to motivate me to work on getting the wings done. I didn’t take any pictures other than the above. I was apparently too excited watching FedEx Freight unloading it from the truck to take any others. Speaking of FedEx Freight, Anne at Van’s does a killer job of negotiating the shipping down. I could not believe the low cost of this shipment. That, and FedEx delivered to my house, with a lift gate, rolled to my shop on a fork lift dolly, to where it sits in the this picture. Quality service.

I chose to modify the kit some. I deleted all the parts related to the brakes (WHAT?) as well as the stock fuel selector and upgraded both to much nicer hardware. Other than that, it was a pretty vanilla order.

Tell us about the upgrades you say? OK.

I chose to go with a nicer option for the brakes/tires/wheels, than Van’s offers. While the stock would work, after owning my own plane, I always look to where I can get the most enjoyment from the least amount of maintenance. My Beech has been a joy in that respect, but has had its share of troubles. The upgrade I chose to take advantage of is an offering from Beringer Aero.

Beringer Aero Art

Beringer Aero Art

Beringer has been around for some time in the Indy and Motorcycle racing world and makes some seriously NICE hardware. They are somewhat new to the Aero side of things, but they entered with a very nice offering. Basically, you get a full pedal to tire kit from them that has everything you need to effectively stop and roll. Incidentally, they recently were picked up by Cirrus Aircraft as OEM for their new Gen 5 aircraft. Others are also coming on-line using Beringer as stock as well. To encourage more RV implementation, they recently offered (January time frame) the full kit at a 30% discount to the kit purchased by an EAA chapter member. I checked to see if any Chapter 23 members here in Salt Lake City had purchased a kit already, and was pleased to find out I would be number 1, and was even more pleased to hear they would still honor the discount in March. Even at 30% off, it was still a sizable upgrade. I hope that the advantages pay dividends. Let me explain a few of those advantages.

  1. The whole kit is lighter than stock (good to save pounds anywhere you can).
  2. Easier maintenance with banjo type fittings.
  3. Nicer brake lines.
  4. The Anti-Skid regulator (provides better ground control, important in a tail dragger).
  5. Tubeless Tires.
  6. Sealed bearings.
  7. Smoother master cylinders.
  8. Most Important-They LOOK AWESOME!! (Too bad the wheels will be under wheel pants).
Beringer - Reservoir to Caliper - Art in Motion!

Beringer – Reservoir to Caliper – Art in Motion!

Small downside to the Beringer stuff is that they are from France. They are just getting a distribution network setup in the US, but stock is limited at the moment. I did have several items missing from my initial shipment, but they are quick and responsive at making it right. The above photo was one I took to show them I was missing some fittings, but it does a good job of showing how you get from the reservoirs to the calipers. I would hit them up soon if you want to get the same deal. They aren’t saying when it expires.

Basically, I had to delete all master cylinders/lines/reservoir included in the kit and add the parts for the co-pilot pedals. The rest (wheels/tires/brake calipers) I will need to delete from the Finish Kit when I go to order it.

The next upgrade I made was to the fuel selector valve. The stock one is actually a brass valve you can find in your local hardware department…really. It works, but…

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More Art with Metal

This one is made by Andair Ltd. This valve is also a duplex valve. I am not sure at this point what engine/injection system I am going to use. Some use a return line, and some don’t. The other consideration is, that who knows what is coming down the line by the time I do have a need for an engine. Rather than guess…I decided when starting my fuel tanks, that I would put in provisions for a return line…just in case. To continue this into the cockpit, I chose to swap the fuel valve for one that could continue the return line provisions all the way to the firewall. if I end up using it, it will be there. If I don’t, I can simply cap the lines off.

The form and function of this valve is very nice and very smooth.  I really like the safety enhancement as well as you cannot accidentally switch this valve to off. You will pay a little premium for it.

Each crate I open from Van’s, I am amazed at how they get it all in such a small space. This one was no exception. It must take a spacial awareness unlike any other to figure it out. There was even space left after it was all said and done. Trouble is, once you take it all out to inventory, there is no way you are able to get it back in. The crate now is holding the large skins. The rest is now all over the shop.

Where does that leave the project? Well…it’s definitely time to get the tanks and the wings done. However, I won’t be waiting for parts for some time. I hope before too long to be sitting in a canoe, next to my lovely wife, making airplane noises and imagining we are that much closer to flying off together to exotic locations.

Categories: Fuselage

Big Day for the Build!

March 5th, 2014 No comments
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My Chosen Configuration

Well…I done did it. I made my decision and placed my order with Van’s for my fuselage kit.

I am now officially building a RV-7 tail dragger tip-up.

I locked in my choice today after some considerable thought, counseling with respected and trusted instructors, and my lovely wife. It wasn’t an easy decision. I weighed all the pros and cons, mission intent for the plane, my skill set as a pilot, and my long term outlook. I could go on and on about it all, sparking massive debate, but suffice it to say, I am happy and feel great with my choice.

I am fortunate to have at my disposal some GREAT check-pilots, fellow pilots, friends, and confidants within the general aviation community through my service with the Civil Air Patrol. I have bent the ear of several over the last few years about this very decision. I have received great advice and training and will continue to as I get the airplane ready to fly.

In the end, this is a very personal decision and one only the builder can make for himself. That said, thanks to all that helped me get to today’s decision. Now…on to building.

Categories: Fuselage

Bummer news for the build…Service Bulletin

February 3rd, 2014 No comments

Well, my hopes of all the issues and bugs being worked out and buying a kit that was the product of all the revisions being incorporated have been dashed.

Van’s released a Service Bulletin (SM 14-1-31) that requires me to do some more work on the HS.

It appears that some cracks are forming in the forward spar interface with the ribs and skins and doublers are being called for now. Granted, I am glad I can comply now rather than later, but still a bummer as this SB requires some tear down of completed parts.

Fortunately, it is much easier to complete on the bench than on the plane.

SB 14-1-31 DWG Snip

SB 14-1-31 DWG Snip

If you look in the upper right corner of this drawing snippet, the relief notches are being found with cracks. This is likely due to the relief notch not being smooth and the stresses put here in flight.

While they are voluntary according to the FAA, I don’t want to chance anything in the future, so I am going to comply now, or as soon as the parts arrive.

Better safe than sorry.

 

Categories: Horizontal Stabilizer

Merry Christmas to ME!

December 25th, 2013 No comments

Seems my wife is prepping me and the shop for extended work sessions in the near future. I awoke to a surprise this Christmas morning.

Very Nice Addition!

Very Nice Addition!

Not only did she get me a SWEET Beverage Box, but she STOCKED it too!!! Room for requests from bucking volunteers as well!

Stocked Up and Ready!

Stocked Up and Ready!

I have cut back on my caffeine consumption considerably, so this should last some time. It also stores Pro-Seal cartridges nicely in the door.

Now that I think of it, I think she must have been tired of dodging those dang Pro-Seal cartridges in the house refrigerator. Now I know the reason for the gift! 😉

Either way, Merry Christmas to me! Thanks Sweetie!

Categories: RV Factory/Shop

Tank Ribs Sealed to Skin

September 2nd, 2013 No comments
Tanks Sealed and Setting

Tanks Sealed and Setting

Well, I finally bit the bullet and decided to get the ribs installed/sealed in the tank skins. For some time, I have not been enthused about the prospect. I just do not like ProSeal. Then again, I do not like caulking, drywall finishing, epoxying, or any other fluid type process (to include biologic). ProSeal does come with some distaste in the RV world, so I feel OK not being alone.

Some time ago, I read a thread on VansAirforce.net written by a guy named Rick Galati addressing this very ProSeal myth. I reread it several times leading up to just knocking it out. His general idea is to butter up the ribs, cleco them 100%, let set a few days, then rivet them together. This allows you to let the majority of the ProSeal get tacky or even light set, then all you have to worry about is wet setting the rivets (placing a dab of sealant in the countersink and inserting the rivet), then coming back and encapsulating the shop head in sealant to finish the task. You can click the link to get right to the thread.

At Least These Look Good

At Least These Look Good

After getting up the confidence and after taking care of a few household tasks, I headed out to the shop. I gathered all the materials, counted out the number of clecos, and cleaned all the parts. It was now or never. Armed with some 6 oz. ProSeal cartridges, a Semco sealant gun borrowed from another builder, and a ton of gloves, I started in on the right tank.

Process as follows:

  1. First, butter up the flange of a rib, then cleco it to the skin on the top with 5 clecos.
  2. Once all ribs are clamped into the skin, slide the skin into the cradle and begin clecoing the bottom starting at the leading edge with 5 clecos.
  3. Then cleco the rest of the holes until all are filled.
    1. This causes some squeeze out of the sealant to occur.
  4. Waited for about 5 minutes and then begin to smooth the squeeze out with a popsicle stick or in my case, a sealant spoon (donated to me by the same builder friend I borrowed the Semco gun from, THANKS TODD!).
    1. In places where the squeeze out is a little light, simply apply more ProSeal where needed (this is easy with the semco gun) and smooth.

Turns out, the 6 oz. cartridge size is just enough to do one tank worth of ribs. I blew through a couple of towels as I smoothed the fillets and wiped that sealant spoon. ProSeal is MESSY!

As you can see from the above picture, the web side of the ribs have pretty nice looking fillets. The flange side…well, not so much. Are they sealed though? I think so, and did all I could to make sure there was a continuous seal all around the flange. The sealant is especially messy at the nose of the ribs. The trick is to seal, not make pretty. Since this is not something anyone can see, I think it will be just fine. The true artists can do a great job, I just don’t want to have any leaks. Any light spots discovered later can be managed with more sealant after it is all set and before the baffle is sealed into place.

I repeated the process with the left tank. There was 1 rib flange at the forward most top hole that was not sitting right. Rather than take apart the whole tank to get at it, I decided to rivet that hole right away. I took a piece of flexible fuel line (rc airplane type) and placed it over a MEK cleaned rivet tail and set it. It pulled the flange right into place.

I Am Not Showing The Flange Side! ;-)

I Am Not Showing The Flange Side! 😉

Once both tanks were done, I taped over each end of the rib to pull the skin closer together. The bend in the skin makes it splay away from the rib flange. Not a problem once the baffle is installed, but at this stage, I just felt better pulling them in to set the flanges where they should be while the sealant cured.

Next up, I need to buy some more sealant and get ready to rivet the tanks final. I am glad to have this step behind me. Please…NO LEAKS!

Categories: Tanks

More Sealant Tasks Done

June 19th, 2013 No comments
Inboard Rib Penetrations and Other Tasks

Inboard Rib Penetrations and Other Tasks

With the work completed Monday, I was essentially ready to take care of the last of the little sealant tasks to be done before the “big smears” are to start.

Last night I had CAP meetings and then ended up hanging out at the airport, helping a friend rivet a bulkhead on a Harmon Rocket. Once that was done it was too late to start any sealing in my shop.

So tonight, I devised a plan of attack to maximize my success and knock out these little tasks. I started by prepping the T-410’s for the outboard end ribs. The manual clearly warns you about installing these on the inboard ribs, but the clearance on the outboard is just fine. Riveting them now is far easier. I scuffed them up and cleaned them off with MEK. I then grabbed 12 AN470AD4-5’s and soaked them in MEK for a bit.

I then loaded all the AN fittings and spacers into a jar of MEK to give them a good cleaning. I wiped both the inboard and outboard ribs down and from that point on, did not touch any parts without gloves on.

I grabbed a 6oz cartridge of ProSeal and mixed away. I first sealed the T-410s to the outboard ribs. I 100% clecoed them on and set them to the side for a bit to allow them to squeeze out. Then I went to sealing the fittings and spacers to the inboard ribs. I first put a thin layer of sealant on the shoulder of the AN fittings, inserted them into their locations and then, after smearing the backside of the spacer with a coat of ProSeal, placed it over the fitting. I then put a small fillet at the fitting on the top of the spacer and then threaded the nut on. This caused a thin gasket of ProSeal to squeeze out from under the nut. I torqued the nut to spec and then repeated this process for the other three fittings.

Next up were the BNC fittings for the fuel senders. I was tempted to put the same thin layer on the shoulder, but the barrel of the BNC needs good continuity between it and the tank. I decided to insert them dry, then tighten the nut, and then seal them good from the backside. With a good “Hershey Kiss” of sealant, it should not leak. Once installed, I did just that, gave it a healthy covering to extend well over the wire and solder joint. It really does look like a black “Hershey Kiss” when you are done.

Once the fittings and BNC’s were in, I went back to the outboard ribs and squeezed the rivets. I then proceeded to “mill” all the sealant. I made nice fillets around the edges of the T-410’s, cleaned off any over done squeeze out, and then covered each shop head with sealant. The manufactured heads will be covered once the rib is attached to the skin, so I cleaned the outside of the rib completely. I then went back to all the fittings and created nice fillets around all the edges of the spacers and nuts. Once that was done, they were nearly covered completely, so I just decided to finish it off. Should not leak here.

Lastly, I hit the outboard Capacitance Fuel Sender plates, where the wire/ring terminal are bolted on, with sealant on the bolt/screw/terminal/nut, as well as sealing off were the wire enters the ring terminal. I think the purpose is for providing good strain relief for the wire. Some say it is to keep fuel from wicking into the strands of the wire. Either way, mission accomplished.

Once all that was done, I went back and cleaned up all the strings of sealant left on parts, cleaned up my tools, and called it a night. These parts will sit for some time while I do the rest of the tasks needed on the tanks, so the sealant should be well cured by the time I mess with them.

Next up…Tank Assembly!

Categories: Tanks

While the Cat is Away…

June 17th, 2013 No comments
Parts Prepped and Ready for Sealant

Parts Prepped and Ready for Sealant

My wife and kiddo’s took off today for the week to play crew support for a scout hiking trip in southern Utah. She left VERY early. Since there was no way I was going to go back to sleep, I headed into the office. I figured I would get the work day knocked out and head to my empty home early. While the “get home early” never happened, I did get out to the shop for a bit.

I prepped the inboard rib penetration spots for sealant. I first scuffed all the locations where the vent and vapor return fittings, and fuel sender connectors would go. Then I cleaned up the spacers by deburring the edges and scuffed the faces.

Lastly, I cleaned up the Capacitance Fuel Probe BNC’s and wires to remove greases, finger slime, and other debris. Once that was done…I was ready for sealant. Not tonight however.

 

Categories: Tanks

Right Tank Sealing Work Starts

June 8th, 2013 No comments
Proof for the FAA.

Proof for the FAA.

OK…so I hate ProSeal. I know I shouldn’t, but I do. I despise the sticky, gooey, snot like stuff. That said, I need to get moving on the plane again. A fellow builder/owner has been hassling me (actually giving good moral support) to get going again as well. Does not help that he let me borrow his sealant gun back in November and I have been holding it captive. We chatted this week again and he darn near pushed me into the shop verbally right then. Thanks Todd!

This weekend had a few items on the “To-DO” list. First, we planned to go hiking as a family EARLY Saturday AM. Apparently the powers that be decided otherwise as the regulator for the drivers side window in our family hauler decided to catastrophically fail Friday night. My Saturday morning turned into a “can I find one” mission and if so, “can I change it out” followup. Fortunately, the dealer did have one, and as much as it pains me to pay more for genuine Honda parts and their associated price, they were local, and I could get the van back in service quick. You got to love Honda engineering. They really seem to think things through from a build and repair standpoint. It was actually a pleasant repair all said and done. I was happy to have the family assault vehicle back in shape.

So with that rewrite of my list, I decided to take a nap, then head out to the shop and see what I could get done. Since buying my original can of B2 ProSeal, it has LONG since expired. My friend Todd had some 1 oz. B2 Semco cartridges he gave me when he lent me his gun. They too had expired a little while ago, but in conversation with him, he said if they mixed up smooth, they should be OK. Did not hurt that they were stored in a cold shop for the last few months. He also gave me some newer 2.5 oz. sized B 1/2 type as well this week. Can you see a trend? Todd really wanted me to make some progress. I also learned that I could purchase some 6 oz. B 1/2 or B2 tubes locally for a decent price.

There has been some debate around the mix as you go or Semco cartridge routes. Both certainly have their advantages and disadvantages. I won’t rehash it here unless asked, but I found that I REALLY liked the gun/cartridge route this time, despite tossing some sealant once I ran out of time. The gun really lets you control where the sealant is going and eliminates the headache of measuring out the parts and making a mess mixing it. It costs a little more to go the gun route, but the convenience seemed very worth it. I think I will borrow the gun from Todd a few more times.

Right Tank Stiffeners Attached

Right Tank Stiffeners Attached

First up were the stiffeners on the bottom of the tank. I masked off the areas with electrical tape after cleaning all the stiffeners and skin with MEK.  I then shot each stiffener with a bead of sealant, smeared it over the whole surface, and then clecoed each in place. I waited a few minutes for squeeze out, then back riveted each and formed the fillets. I used the sealant gun to put a dab over each shop head to eliminate any path for fuel to leak. This took about an hour. I used the 1 oz. B2 tubes that were a little old. They mixed well and the sealant came out nice and smooth. (Update, they cured fine too.)

Right Tank Sump Flange

Right Tank Sump Flange

I then moved on to the sump flange. By then my flying bud, Matt had arrived to kill his boredom. He helped keep my mind off my dislike for the sealant. I smeared the faying surface and clecoed it on. After 5 minutes, came back and was able to use my squeezer and install all these rivets. The shot above is after some serious cleanup. I got a little in the threads of the flange, but I think I can clean it out with a tap or rag later.

This Should (Better Not) Leak!

This Should (Better Not) Leak!

Last, or so I thought, was the filler neck and vent line clip. As you can see, I got a little carried away with the sealant here. I had plenty in the tube and was getting short on tasks I had planned out to accomplish. Needless to say, it should not leak, at least not here. I was able to get the four most outboard rivets with my squeezer, but the rest I back riveted in place one at a time.

Right Tank Filler Neck and Cap from the Outside

Right Tank Filler Neck and Cap from the Outside

Here you can see the flange/cap from the outside. Turned out OK. I have one rivet that appears to be slightly high, but I will likely shave it down. Replacing it would be very difficult now that I have super sealed it. There is a nice bead of sealant around the opening in the skin and each rivet. The deluxe caps sure look nice.

Outboard Tooling Hole Filled and Sealed Inside

Outboard Tooling Hole Filled and Sealed Inside

At this point, I started to clean up stuff. As I was looking around, I remembered that I had some AN470AD6 rivets (again from Todd) that I could use to plug the tooling holes in the outboard ribs. These are big suckers and my squeezer just barely did the job. I put the manufactured head on the inside of the tank to give it the best bearing surface area contact. Once I got it smashed in place, I coated both sides with sealant.

Outboard Tooling Hole Sealed

Outboard Tooling Hole Sealed

Here is the outside of the same. Sealed and covered. Takes care of that hole.

The time was spent, I was tired. So I cleaned up, tossed all the sealant covered rags, gloves, cartridges, and friends out and closed up shop. I will let this sit for a bit to cure and then likely hit the inboard rib penetrations/fittings with sealant. Todd told me he would help me with sealing/riveting the ribs, so I need to get everything else done so he is not held up by my feet dragging. I will get through these tanks eventually.

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